Cover Crops and Tame Grass Pasture, Donnie Feiring, ND

Cover Crops and Tame Grass Pasture, Donnie Feiring, ND


Well, thanks everybody for coming this morning, I’m Donnie Ferenc and I’m from Beach, North Dakota and My wife Trish is here, too We applied that guess a couple years ago for this area We were fortunate enough to to get it ours is entitled utilizing cover crops to increase productivity and health on vigorón tame grass and I Guess I’ll give you a little history about her my wife And I we got married 98 we both grew up on on cattle ranches but We when we bought this property. I guess I’ll move on to the next slide here I’ll give a little history brought us, but it’s my wife and my two kids and 98 we got married we moved on to having cattle on shares with my father-in-law then in 2007 we moved to beach North Dakota we were fortunate enough to get on to this section of ground that we’re already releasing it 2009 we’ll be able to buy it We moved on into 10 and 11 and 11 and 12 that the years were very different than Dighton day And I’ll show you some pictures here. I guess here. It is talks about a description of our Sarah Browns We wanted to rejuvenate the brown grass But this was a picture of our property before We owned it. I guess and that today I Don’t know if you can see, but this would be right in here where we did our our Sarah Graham project It was farmed prior to 1983 and in 1983 it was ceded back to pretty much broham alfalfa and Western wheat well, it’s been grazed by horses and cattle and The production went down on it and so like in 2011 I’ll get this is our picture in 2014 I guess of over you of it And we move on 2014 we took some Transact spots where we got some soil samples, and you can see that there And we move on to our next one This is another one in 2014 and you can see our 2004 excuse me the different types of the soil Imagery 2009 you can see where that This video slide here shows a lot about where the water was and you can see the the veins for the horses and the cattle Making veins and these are kind of gullies or washouts. I wouldn’t know if I’d come go is I just call them wash outs, but we call them proper areas and like Phil Jerry was talking about last night, but Filling in the bare ground. I guess that’s what we look at these white spots on here as bare ground And we just have to get more covered on them so 2014 this is denta fires our spots, I guess where we where we did This is the two 20 acre pass I have pastures or that projects that we did we did seated this 20 acres in 2013 this one in 2014 and Now you can see where we put our foot our our house our building The cross fences and the trees and everything that we’re doing there but as you can still see there’s still lots of areas where we need more more cover and more I Guess we call it organic matter we need to put on the ground We were in with NRCS with the CSP program so we do photo points This is a photo point we took in 2012 and as you can see by this picture There is pretty good cover on the ground, but we would like it to be better 2012 was a really dry year for us we probably Didn’t even have six inches of moisture probably that year a lot of the bromb ground On this field and project got three to four inches and never even headed out So that’s what got us kind of Driving into this sare grant or into this project. Is that we needed to get more production out of it and for us We don’t own any hay ground so we want to utilize as much grazing as we can throughout the whole year so we had to look at different ways and and we sent that down with NRCS and County agent And that’s how we kind of come up with sare grant So we have and we were traveling around to some other meetings like this and got that idea. I guess for cover crops You can see there’s some weeds Or there’s different things and not a lot of just activity everything’s kind of dead and brown And I’ll show you as we go along as therefore two points This is a just a overview again of its in 2012 and I think it was taken probably in the fall probably the end of October 1st of November That fall we started an early winter after we win we’re doing some Bale grazing This is just a picture of some of our or heifer calves using bale grazing Some more You know a lot of people talk about you know is that waste, or is it you know? I have neighbors that just scream at me like I’m wasting too much hay, but we look at it as we’re putting more organic matter on the ground and more material So, this is a breakdown I guess of our cost and expenses that we entailed in 2013 We went ahead and sprayed it 30 ounces, then we seeded it. This is our cover crop that a mix that we used we had Gabe brown I guess from Bismarck and Kenny Miller from Bismarck kind of helped us with the different varieties and what we want to try to accomplish with it With that that year, this is the seeding that we did and the rate As you can see the canopy we We didn’t have you know the Brome 22% versus our native we tested Patches you know around there as you can see we just don’t have bear growls that 40% You know later 23. We just didn’t have the cover on there that we’d like to see And we did a soil test, and I don’t think we did another one Just put on here, but our Infiltration that’s another thing we wanted to try to keep more water on our Property and not have it all go down to the creek or to our neighbors And as you can see on this we need some work because we only could take an inch Per hour and versus the native. It’s you know a lot better so And you can see our NPK where we’re at there and per acre so There’s people that thought you know that this is awful expensive way But if you were going to break it up and farm it for two three years You got a lot of expense into that too, so And at the time hey wasn’t cheap either So we’re just trying to find different ways and make this property work, so If you guys have any questions at the end we can talk more about that this is um in July of that same year we had a little over three inches I guess and probably I think about 45 minutes and as you can see this is part of the field that we seeded and What the water is doing it’s it’s going down to the creek and to our neighbors And that’s something that we’re working on we wanted to try to get more organic matter to get the water to stay Stay on our property instead of going to the neighbors, and it’s just we were pretty nervous those gonna take our Road out That’s our driveway Luckily it didn’t but it made our Road a little more narrower, but And then this was after the rain as you can see here This is cover crop was just seated the end of June, but this is the field here The darker spots were places that I Bale graze that winter oh there’s just more more material there, and you can see where we sprayed and and It’s China we didn’t get the best Best probably killed job on it But we didn’t really want to kill the broom all we wanted to do was just kind of set it back This was taken in September that fall We had a our county agent and NRCS kind of had a golden valley cover crop tur We went to three different locations. I guess in the county and this is Carter stop on our twenty acres that we did that year and as you can see back where we were headed to there these darker spots is where I Bale grazed and There’s more organic matter there and thus more litter more nutrients from the cattle so And what we agree is there I guess that fall we had 14 yearling Bulls on therefore basically 41 days and On the cover crop and then after that November 20th It started getting cold, and and we thought they had most of it grazed off pretty good, so we started supplementing and then And this is our CSP photo shoot for that next fall and This is after we Bale grazed some of their so you can see that darker Darker rings here this would be where we probably Bale grazed. There’s a lot more vegetation Our rainfall probably was double or a while probably almost triple in 2013 2 versus 2012 and you can see the brown grass got a lot thicker, but there’s a lot more plant vegetation there so so we are making improvements at least we feel like we are, but it’s a Long road ahead of us yet We think that you know they farmed it until 1983 You know and didn’t do a lot I think we’ve been in a taketake mode, so now we’re trying to be more proactive the other way so It might take us 30 years to get it get it back This was taken last winter or spring. I guess this is another part of the property there We were Bale grazing and my wife just thought it was kind of a neat picture all them Bulls were laying down there where we failed grazing and They use that for their bedding I guess This is part of our crew here, it’s hard and Taylor our two daughters. I guess rule no hay and That’s part of it too. Why we why we’re doing some of this It’s for them in the future, but this is another one in the spring. I guess I should go on to 2014 what we did We were out of conference I guess with dr. Huber and talked about roundup and so next year The negatives of it, so we thought well, let’s try something different. Let’s just use our cattle so in the May of 2014 we just grazed it we moved 50 pairs on there for I think ten days And we just grazed the property down and as that’s what the cows and calves are doing out there now We just wanted to set the brown grass back and go in and seed it So June or another one me We’re all putting mineral for the cattle and all this is absolutely apple cider vinegar – we were putting out for them but Me and the Pooh, then this is a picture that we take to of dung beetles As you can see there, there’s quite a bit of action going on in there You know kind of exciting The kids they really enjoy it we call this our field tour They’re excited about digging through dung beetles they’re looking for them, and they think it’s pretty cool. You know it’s like They’d run from one dumbbell to the next and they wanna they want to find out you know and so They’re six and four so it’s everything to them is pretty new and exciting you know so 2014 this is what we did we decided to go a little earlier We wanted to get more out of our cover crop I know people say you can see that later But we wanted to go earlier and get see if we can get more growth more Production out of it so we went a little earlier, it’s May 25th we we did 40 pairs of high stock density and Then we took them out of there I think on the seventh day Juna was on the one side the first 20 acres we seeded on June 5th The other 20 acres we did on June 10th We had our local Golden Valley County Soil Conservation District do it As you see our costs are a lot less this year. Just due to the fact We didn’t have to spray we didn’t have to hire somebody to spray the round up by the roundup We’ve changed our seeding a little bit We tried some grazing porn and the hairy vetch and Kale the terms marasmus were the same The year before we tried cow peas Didn’t know I see much growth there with them, but but the rest of those we we didn’t see something out of all of them And this is June 5th This is what it looked like before when we were seeding it kind of this is the west half of the 20 acres As you can see there huh I just just point oh here. This is Southwest water Come through and plow to trench through there, so you can see that bare ground there, but here. There’s also other bare ground spots, so That’s our thing we’re trying to work on yes, trying to get get it to drill better There’s our soil conservation districts eating it Yes, give you We still had some chemical residue. I guess – that’s another thing we want to see on this slide You can see the strips where parts of the Broome grass is still I guess desiccated or dead from the roundup from the year before Another picture of it pointing the other way, this is to the north And we we didn’t want to kill the brown grass I guess this more dye set it back and we feel like it was set back fairly decent I guess Another picture, I guess of the our soil conservation history This was taken a month later, and we’re checking out her a cover crop. What’s coming and she’s pictured there by a soybean I Thought we were kind of crazy for putting soybeans in there I didn’t think they could grow that far. West, but You get enough moisture get the right things going They’ll still still grow and they actually did fairly quite well For what I thought they they didn’t get really you know no lice, but you know three three four inches You know so we were we were excited, and I you know they’re really good for the cattle and good for the land, so That’s a picture of the hairy bitch Child we’ll just they love hairy vetch, and I think they do very very well off of it, so picture that and you can see kind of some of the Litter on the ground and we’re trying to get more of that on that This is another picture taken from the West half, you can see the roles of the took some of the corn coming You know some of this other stuff. It’s harder to see, but you know we did Have a good sweet clover year last year, so you can see some sweet clover coming in there Another picture bigger overview of it, this is kind of more on the east side of it but you can see some of the soybeans and some of the Corn and other things coming in granted. I mean it’s not like you guys down here. Where you get corn 8 10 12 feet high But for us, it’s what’s exciting This is a trouble spot that we have with their ground. It’s a hard pan. I guess like they were talking about last night This excites us too because we get some Bale grazing on it in the spring and Just goes to show we need to do more of it but how the cover crop or the soybeans and the hairy vetch was was trying to come through there, and that’s that’s good, because normally it would just be bare bare dirt, and we don’t want that we don’t want to be losing it and and so We’re we were pretty excited about this picture, and it’s a 40-point that we can watch for years to come Another one here you can see where we Bale grazed here. We had oats and peas and There’s some voluntary oats coming there, so And it’s a lot better more thriving there than where where it isn’t So Another picture – towards the north there to our place we showed you before how it was dead or desiccated there, and now it’s filling in and you can see some of the Sunflowers coming you know they don’t get very tall, but the cattle they just love them. They do really well be surprising when we dump them out in the cover crop they kind of I Don’t know we were first couple years. We did cover crops, and we turned cab out we were worried about frosted acid or or Bloat or whatever, but they really They adjust their diet I guess to it, and they liked the buffet style one day They’ll eat the millet or next day. They’ll eat the Sunflowers and I think gobbler livestock as a whole or a lot smarter than what us humans Give him credit for I think sometimes. Maybe we’re the ones that cause problems This is what we did in 2014 we grazed 28 yearling Bulls there from October 13th to the 7th And then we started supplementing them You know maybe wouldn’t had to start supplementing them, but we had our sale in November 22nd so we were trying to get the Bulls still and good you know sale conditions So so we did for 25 days, and they could still go out there and and still graze the cover crop But they also come in two To eat D. – hey – Then in September we had the North Dakota grazing coalition came to our place and we did a pasture walk We had roughly about 35 producers there. This is just a picture of some of that They’re not really on the cover crop. They’re on some pasture that we graze and we did a High-intensity grazing there and so there People are standing around talking. I guess and visiting what what we saw and what we didn’t see this is a picture in the fall more of our Bale grazing and We brought the Bulls all in there, and if you’re older Seeing how tall she is a guesser This is our photo point again for CSB this would be Taken again. I guess in the fall, and you can see Some of the bail ratings again where we bail graves where they’re a little darker green where it isn’t I? I need to get probably GPS and be more Point Pacific I guess, but we’re you know pretty close every year where we’re at but But there’s definitely getting to be more different varieties of grass there, it’s not just broman it’s a lot denser to soil This is a picture of some of the tools. I guess we’d like to use in our ranch in our play some Affordable windbreak has been a wonderful asset of for us Because it just opens up our grazing. We can I take the loader bucket and I can take them anywhere. I want to and and set them down and It’s a tool. I think we’re gonna use for a lot more years do so it This is a picture of our tanks one more frost free water tanks They are completely energy free The number of cattle that you Have on them makes a difference. You know if it’s 10 below. You will get some ice if you’re under 100 head We have one to the east where we run our main cow herd. I guess of 120 cows but She’ll stay pretty open until it’s probably 10 to 15 below because there’s enough cattle drink in there and every day it gets a new flush of water in there so and It’s kind of pointed to the southeast where it still gets some Sun so Mmm. And then this is a Mother picture, I guess a slide of kind of where that dark green spots I want you to see where we’ve been Bale grazing and intensifying and getting more Organic matter on the ground. This is a kind of a waterway like we were saw on that first one that were deep and There wasn’t much Litter there, and so we’re working on those these here too or some places we fed last spring and trying to get more organic matter and more productive, and I think This whole deal. I think if we get more nitrogen or more Organic matter on the grounds more surface. I think the brown grass and everything will rejuvenate better so, but I think we took for 30-some years or 50 years and We have a farmer I guess north of us He’s always asking me about cover crops, and he he says well What do you think and he’s like well III think he wants us to be a genie in a bottle Like I’m supposed to give him the answer and just poof You know it’s gonna increase his wheat by ten more bushels. You know III don’t have that answer so It’s not a not a cure-all, but I think it’s another tool in conclusion, I guess like I’ve been talking about we need to increase our gaeng matter and keep Bale grazing and keep utilizing cover crops and The verdict is still out there. I guess on the broom, and what will happen to it But you know I were okay with the bran being in there And we’re okay with whatever else has been coming in there, so When we did that I didn’t tell you that but done that east side where we did more than intense about grazing last spring we did start seeing some Western wheat grass coming and so it just shows that the seed was there and It sits there in the ground there. It just needs to be able to compete with the broom and get a chance to come This is why we do it It’s for a four year old and six year old so we can spend more time for out turtle hunting so but we would like to thank the Sarah grant people I guess for giving the opportunity to try this project and We’re still learning a lot and have a long ways to go on our ranches Needs a lot of work, but you know the Roman Empire wasn’t built overnight So we we feel like we are making baby steps, I guess The question was can you see difference where we sprayed the roundup and where we didn’t yes? It just didn’t have to compete quite as much with with the broom where we did spray the roundup it Probably come up and emerged a lot faster on the east side where we did not spray any of the roundup It was interesting the soybeans did quite well there We didn’t see a lot of height, but you know three four inches, but they still competed with the broom I The verdict is still out there. I guess I Don’t know I I think it still Needed something to set that broom back, but we didn’t want to farm it we didn’t want to plow it up I guess maybe they answer your question but But I still think it comes down to the tool that maybe we don’t even need the spraying The tool is there we need to use the towel. Maybe more and put the nitrogen and the pooping manner down on you know use our livestock, and and not worry about the chemical and With the roundup you probably could get faster results you know you could probably get there faster, but you know yeah, I’m not saying you need to use it did that help answer your question

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